FAQ

Welcome to the official source of information regarding LDRS 35!

1. When is LDRS 35?
LDRS 35 is scheduled for Wednesday, June 8, to Sunday, June 12, 2016. That’s five full days of flying!. Visit the Launch Schedule page.

2. How much will the fees be? 
The Registration Fee is $75.00, payable when you check in at Registration. We take cash and major credit cards (using a Square account).
Tripoli Banquet: $35.00 —Quantities are extremely limited, and may run out early! Ask at Registration as soon as you arrive.

Spectator Fee: Free!
Camping on the lakebed: Free! Please see our Launch Site page for more information.
3. Where is Lucerne Dry Lake?
Lucerne Dry Lake is in San Bernardino County, California about 2 hours northeast of Los Angeles. Visit the Launch Site Information Page.

4. What’s the waiver going to be?
The FAA waiver for LDRS 35 will be 14,500 feet Above Ground Level (17,500′ MSL).  We can also ask for call-in windows to 19,000’AGL (22,000′ MSL), with air traffic control approval.

5. What about Research Motors?
The State of California restricts motors to be pre-approved by the Office of the State Fire Marshall (OSFM). Nearly all commercial solid motors are already approved.
We have been in contact with the OSFM, and have confirmed that no exemption is possible.

6. What about California Impulse Limits?
Similar to the OSFM approval, the State of California limits the impulse of one motor:  “Experimental High Power Rocket Motor. A State Fire Marshal approved, commercially manufactured rocket propulsion device containing a solid propellant charge wherein all the ingredients are pre-mixed and which produces more than 160 Newton-seconds (36 lb.-seconds) but shall not exceed 10,240 Newton-seconds (2302.2 lb.-seconds) of total impulse.”
Additionally, the State of California limits the total impulse of one rocket:
“When more than one rocket motor is utilized, the combined total impulse shall not exceed 20,480 Newton-seconds (4604.4 lb.-seconds).”
We have been in contact with the OSFM, and have confirmed that no exemption from these regulations is possible.

7. Who do I contact to discuss a special project I am planning for LDRS 35?
If you are planning a large or complex project and may need special support, please contact the Special Projects Coordinator for LDRS 35:
Gerald Meux is our special projects coordinator.

8. Will there be hybrid equipment at LDRS 35?
Plans are being made now.There will be some GSE, but the launch will probably be “BYOG”–Bring Your Own Gas…
If you plan to fly a hybrid motor system and will need GSE support, or if you are bringing hybrid launch equipment and are willing to let other flyers with compatible equipment launch from it, please let us know.For more information contact our hybrid coordinator, Mike Kramer.

9. Is there an “official” hotel for LDRS 35?
ROC is pleased to announce the completion of the LDRS35 Host Hotel arrangements.
The Host Hotel for LDRS35 will be the Hilton Garden Inn in Victorville, CA.
Hilton Garden Inn
12603 Mariposa Road
Victorville, CA 92395
760-952-1200
The discounted rooms have all been booked, but there may be additional rooms at their regular rates. Visit the Launch Site Information Page for additional hotel/motel options.

10. Is there a place nearby to rent RVs?
JR RV Rental, LLC, in Apple Valley is known for supplying the best RV, Trailers and 5th wheels for your next camping trip. Delivery and set up is available to make everything easier for your trip without the hassle of towing a trailer.

11. Can a youth group attend LDRS?
LDRS is primarily a high power launch, so our emphasis will be on providing launch pads for high power rockets. There will be a very limited number of low power pads available.
Since LDRS is a special launch, there are special fees to fly, with no provision for youth discounts. Each flyer must register and pay the flight fee, which is $55 each for advance registration, and $75 each starting May 22.
Everyone is welcome to come watch, and visit our vendors! There is no fee for spectators.

12. Where will the Tripoli Banquet be held?
ROC is pleased to announce the location of the Banquet on Saturday, June 11th. The Banquet will be held at the Sundowner Ranch (location of LDRS29 Banquet) only about 5 minutes from the lakebed.
The banquet registration is open, for $35 per person.

13. Can I bring my dog to LDRS?
We strongly recommend against it! The launch site is an extreme environment that is potentially dangerous to dogs (and other living things). The high temperature in June ranges from the low 90s to well over a hundred degrees F, depending on the year. The only shade is what you bring with you. A dog, or anyone else, who is not acclimated can overheat and dehydrate very quickly. For a dog, it is difficult to tell anyone about the symptoms in time to get help. Heat illness can become life-threatening in the time it takes you to launch and recover a rocket!
For Veterinary Care:
Bear Valley Animal Hospital

20991 Bear Valley Rd
Apple Valley, CA 92308
Phone:(760) 240-5228
Hours:  Monday – Friday 7:30AM–6PM,  Saturday 8AM–4PM,  Sunday Closed

Animal Care Hospital
21554 Outer Hwy 18 N
Apple Valley, CA 92307
Phone:(760) 247-0292
Hours:  Monday – Friday 8AM–5PM,  Saturday 8AM–12PM,  Sunday Closed

14. Will there be night flying at LDRS 35?
Night flying is planned for Thursday and Friday evenings. Each rocket flying after dark must have a light on board that will be visible from the range head during the entire flight.

15. How do I become a vendor at LDRS35?
ROC is encouraging vending at LDRS35 and will be setting aside prime flight-line space for vendors at the launch.
LDRS35 takes place on federally managed land. You must get a BLM permit conduct business at LDRS35. BLM requests a 180 day lead-time on permits so please contact them as soon as possible…

BLM Barstow Field Office
2601 Barstow Road
Barstow, CA 92311
Phone: (760) 252-6000
http://www.blm.gov/ca/forms/feedback/index.html?fo=4

For more information contact our vendor coordinator, Mike Kramer.

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